In this episode, Peter plays a game of croquet with Witney u3a, Sarah learns about a UK-wide bridge competition to celebrate u3a week and Sam Mauger updates us on the 40th Anniversary celebrations. Do you have a story to share with u3a radio? Get in touch with us at communications@u3a.org.uk
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- [Nick] Hello, and welcome to episode 21
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of the u3a radio podcast,
where we look ahead
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to September's 40th
anniversary celebrations
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with the u3a chief executive Sam Mauger,
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but also in the next half an
hour with me, Nick Bailey,
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we explore the game of croquet.
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(ball being hit)
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- [Peter] And there, I have done that.
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And there goes my ball right out
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into the countryside, exactly.
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- [Nick] Change the "q" for
a "c" and you get crochet,
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but what does it have to do
with a Cuban revolutionary?
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- [Chris] A friend of mine
had redecorated his office
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and he's all- he's admired Che Guevara.
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And if I say the well
known, post-war Che Guevara.
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- [Jo] Absolutely. With his
beret and yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- [Chris] Red and black. And he said,
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"Could you crochet me a Che Guevara?"
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And I said, "Well, probably."
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- [Nick] And we'll hear about
a national bridge competition
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to celebrate u3a week in September.
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- [Steve] So no matter
where you are, yeah,
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you'll get the same hands and you'll be
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competing against somebody in Cornwall,
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or somebody up in the Shetland Isles,
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or in London, yeah, the
exact, the exact same hands.
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The advantage of that
is that you can then see
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at the end of the day, yeah,
how well you did against
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all your fellow bridge players.
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- [Nick] But first to those
40th anniversary celebrations
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Ela Watts spoke to the u3a's
chief executive, Sam Mauger
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and suggested that it had
already been quite a year.
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- [Sam] It certainly has.
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And it's enabled us to really
push some of the messages
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that we wanted to get out
to the wider population
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in the United Kingdom.
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So that sort of whole message
about positive later life,
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about the contribution that
everybody brings together
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in their u3as; their sharing
of skills and experience,
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and also the very innovative ideas
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that u3a members have got.
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So encouraging people to come and join us,
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being part of that u3a membership,
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because it's all there to
do in their retirement.
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There's lots to do, lots to
find out, lots to contribute to.
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And we wanted to share that message.
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- [Ela] And have you got
involved in any of the
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innovative things that
have cropped up so far?
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- [Sam] So I'm going to be going shortly
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to an anniversary quilt event in Witney,
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which I'm really looking forward to.
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I haven't seen the quilt yet in person,
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because that was a closely guarded secret,
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but I've now seen a picture of it.
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And it is absolutely fantastic.
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I mean, enormous, but really
shows the skills and talents
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of u3a members in those squares.
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We took place in some of the
picnic in the park events,
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so that was really lovely.
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I really enjoying that
kind of relaxed time
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of people coming together,
showing their cookery skills,
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and just actually being able
to have that social time,
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which u3a's are also so good
at doing and engendering.
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We're looking forward to having the film
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of the armchair discussion.
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The first one being between
Liz Thackray and Eric Midwinter
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which we're looking forward
to hearing the perspective of
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Eric, founder, and Liz, the current chair.
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So that's great too.
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And of course we have many
more events coming up.
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We've got the online science
network event and the
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research and shared learning conference.
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So yeah, lots of, lots
of good things happening.
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And of course, u3a week,
which will be celebrating,
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being part of the u3a wherever they are.
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- [Ela] Wonderful Sam.
So lots more to come.
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So could we have just a little update
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on the direction of the u3a?
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- [Sam] Yes. So the u3a
worked magnificently, I think,
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to get through the pandemic.
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So with all of those challenges and
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coming out of the pandemic.
We all hope, you know,
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it's all now under control,
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the movement is going through
a sort of reemergence or
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Renaissance, whatever you
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And so there's a big focus
on opening our doors again,
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encouraging membership to come along.
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And there's been lots
of tools put together to
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encourage u3as and support u3as to do that
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and support u3as to
help each other do that.
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We're looking at developing
and supporting work around
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learning resources, including
online learning as well.
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So there's a piece of work
developing easy to find resources
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that have been put together
both by u3a members
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and other external resources
that u3a members use.
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online learning experience,
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where it is online, work very well.
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Also remembering the
support needed for people to
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meet face to face, whether
it's in terms of documentation,
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in terms of workshops but
that face to face experience,
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which u3a is really all about.
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We're looking at things
like the digital experience.
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some people are really okay
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with digital and some
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people in the movement that,
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that have less confidence with digital,
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and it's really important
always to keep that
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as a focus, looking at the
next generation of membership.
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So we have such a fantastic
membership currently,
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and we want to encourage
more and more people to come
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through to share their
skills and experience,
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and also to take some of the
pressure off those hardworking
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committee members that already exist.
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And also looking at where we can do things
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in partnership with other organisations,
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other charities that might be looking
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at the same things as we
are, and are there anything
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that they can learn from us
or we can learn from them?
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So a lot of, a lot of planning,
a lot of looking ahead,
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a lot of discussing with the
membership about what we should
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be focusing on and where
we should be going,
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but really building up on
that kind of reemergence that
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here's the u3a ready to go.
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- [Ela] What about what
we've achieved this year?
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In particular, this is a very
special year for the u3a.
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- [Sam] First of all, I think
a huge achievement was for
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u3as to come back out,
start working together, and
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start being out in
their communities again,
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sort of regrouping really
after the pandemic.
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And that was a big thing for
some u3as because some of
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them hadn't felt able to do
a lot during the pandemic.
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but it hit u3as in different ways.
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Around the country, around
all of the countries,
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the four nations, the u3as are back out,
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they're back as a presence.
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a huge testament to that
feeling of community in u3as
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and that feeling of, you know,
what are we going to do next?
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How are we going to continue doing
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good and new things in the future?
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I think the 40th anniversary
has been a great opportunity to
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coalesce everybody around
that reemergence and starting
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again and us all doing
something to recognise that
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40 year experience that we've had.
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There's been also the
participation of u3a members
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in sharing their learning skills.
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So through learning networks,
through subject advisers,
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running online learning groups,
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we've had now over 500
u3as on the beacon system,
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which is fantastic, really well supported.
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And that is supported by a
group of dedicated volunteers,
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which has been excellent.
So, so that is good.
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I think that's fantastic.
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We've had u3as that have
become involved in looking at
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how they can raise
their voice about issues
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that's important to them, and
some have taken part in our
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workshops around voice and
how to do that properly
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within the confines of
being a u3a charity.
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So that has been really exciting.
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And there's the development
of the u3a strategy,
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which again, different
groupings of members of u3as
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are helping to develop as we
look forward into the future.
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So a lot has happened this
year and I've really given
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you only the sort of headlines
of it, but underneath that,
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there's an awful lot of
activity by so many u3a members
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continuing to make the u3a
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a fantastic movement to be part of.
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- [Ela] Thank you very much, Sam.
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The enthusiasm is contagious.
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- [Sam] Yeah (laughing)
It is. And you know,
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it's fantastic that we have such an
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enthusiastic movement and
a movement that really
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puts a hand up and takes
part and gets counted.
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Lots of, you hear a lot of discussion in,
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you know, outside of the
u3a, generally in the world,
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generally about how it's
difficult to get people to do
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this or that or the other.
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Well, the u3a movement is the opposite.
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So people come to the u3a
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real celebration where
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a movement of doers, of
people that get things done.
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The u3a movement this year
has shown that I think.
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We're back out there, we're
celebrating our 40 years.
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And we're looking to the future.
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- [Nick] The u3a's chief
executive, Sam Mauger.
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Sam mentioned the enormous
quilt at Witney u3a,
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which must have taken a lot of dedication.
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But when it comes to handy craft skills,
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there's no stopping u3a members.
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For instance, have you ever
heard of extreme crochet?
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Chris Winner, the Chair of Prestatyn, Rhyl
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and District u3a, has
developed her own style
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of extreme crocheting, as she
explained to Joanne Watson.
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- [Chris] Extreme crochet to me is
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using a crochet hook and yarn
to do something different.
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If you like, make soft
sculptures and things like that.
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Working beyond using a pattern
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to develop your own personal ideas.
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so I know how to knit,
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but I've never crocheted in my life.
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So explain to me how
difficult or easy it is
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to take up crocheting.
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- [Chris] Right. Well,
most people would say,
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"Well, you know, my mother taught me," or,
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"My grandmother taught me."
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But that's not the case with me.
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When I first started
working, I saw someone,
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one of my colleagues, working
with one hook and yarn
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and things seemed to be
growing really quickly.
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And I said, "Oh, isn't this...?"
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I'd heard about crochet obviously.
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And they said, "Stand
behind me and watch."
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And then I picked it up.
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So I was probably about 21
when I first started crochet.
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And the difference is
you have one hook, and
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generally speaking, one stitch.
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And also even with the
smallest crochet stitch,
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it grows quite quickly. And
I have no problem, you know,
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pulling something out or get
halfway through and think,
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"Oh that's not right,"
pull it out and do it again
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because I can do it quickly.
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people who haven't got
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a lot of patience for knitting,
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crochet seems like a
really good alternative.
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- [Chris] Crocheting is
something that you can
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pick up and put down. I
know my mother would say,
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"Yes, you can pick up
knitting and put it down,"
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but you have to be a
little bit more careful.
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Crochet, one hook, a ball
of yarn, and a way you go.
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My mom used to do what
I call "Jedi knitting."
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So she could be watching
the TV and knitting,
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but didn't seem to do anything.
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And I thought, "Well, I
wonder if I can Jedi crochet?"
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And I did sort of for 30 seconds probably.
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I was crocheting with my eyes closed,
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and I could do it. But after a
while you do, with crocheting
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if you lose that stitch, you know,
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and you've got your eyes closed,
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you'd need to pick it up.
So you can't Jedi crochet
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in the same way that you can Jedi knit.
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- [Joanne] I've never heard
the expression "Jedi knitting."
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- [Chris] May the force be with you.
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Cause I am a sci-fi fan,
I refer to it as Jedi,
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you know, Jedi knitting,
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where you didn't have
to look at something.
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- [Joanne] How popular
is crocheting these days?
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Cause I associate it with my
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grandmother's generation
to be quite honest.
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- [Chris] During the seventies,
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it kind of had a revival
and it was kind of a,
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I'm gonna say hippie thing to do.
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Then it sort of faded away.
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I actually stopped crocheting
because I was too busy.
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I probably stopped crocheting
for about 20 years.
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But I do think there is a
huge resurgence of crochet.
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If you look at the number of
videos about crocheting on
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YouTube, and it could
be social media creating
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this sort of interest in crochet again,
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and other forms of craft.
And I would say it's
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more popular now than
it was in the nineties.
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- [Joanne] Do men crochet
in any great number?
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- [Chris] Oh yes. If you look on YouTube,
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there are a lot of men who crochet and,
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and because it's a craft, you know,
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and you get lots of women who do
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carpentry, and get the men who do crochet.
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- [Joanne] What's the
most extreme piece of
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crochet that you've done, Chris?
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- [Chris] Che Guevara.
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- [Joanne] (laughing) Che
Guevara, the Cuban revolutionary?
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- [Chris] Yes. A friend of
mine had redecorated his office
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and he admired Che Guevara.
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And if I say the well
known, post-war Che Guevara
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- [Joanne] Absolutely. With
his beret and yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- [Chris] Red and black. And he said,
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"Could you crochet me a Che Guevara?"
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And I said, "Well, probably."
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(laughs)
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So I looked at it and I thought
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"I'm gonna have to have
a pattern for that."
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You could make your own pattern by taking
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the poster and then gridding
it and then, and such like.
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But I thought, "I'll have
a look cause its bound to
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that somebody else has
bound to have done it."
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And I did find a pattern and I thought,
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"Well, not really keen on that."
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Wasn't really good. But I did
find a cross stitch pattern
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which was really, really
good. And I thought,
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"Yeah, I can modify that to
make it into a crochet pattern."
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Anyway, I transferred it
across onto a spreadsheet.
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And then I counted how
many reds, how many blacks
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for each row that I needed.
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And I was going along and I thought, "Mm."
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You couldn't tell. And
it was one of these,
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I called it, trust the process.
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Finished it. I had got to my last one and
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it didn't look anything like Che Guevara.
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It was all squashed up.
But of course, with yarn,
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and same in knitting really, your tension.
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And as I stretched it, I thought,
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"Oh! There's Che Guevara."
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So I pinned it around
a piece of foam board.
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And I think it's actually on the website.
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I think Che is up there somewhere.
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- [Joanne] How big was Che Guevara?
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- [Chris] It was probably A2
size, if that means anything,
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roughly the size of a poster.
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- [Joanne] I know in knitting you get
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different size needles, and if
you've got really big needles
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and chunky yarn, you can create something
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in almost in minutes.
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Does the same apply with crochet hooks?
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- [Chris] Yes, different
size crochet hooks
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made of different materials as well.
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I like metal hooks, but some
people like acrylic or plastic,
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but you can also get Rosewood hooks.
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You can get hooks made in bamboo.
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I've got my hook set that
I use most frequently.
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It's got a metal hook part.
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You can take the handle off
and add another hook into it.
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But the beauty of it is the
handle's got LED lights in it.
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So I can illuminate my
work as I'm working.
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- [Nick] No wonder sci-fi
fan, Chris, likes her
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illuminated hook handle.
It sounds exactly like a
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lightsaber straight out of Star Wars.
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And from extreme crochet
to genteel croquet,
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we sent Peter Clift
along to test his skills
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at the Witney u3a croquet group,
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where he first spoke to Valerie Palmer.
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- [Peter] Now Valerie is
croquet very, very popular?
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- [Valerie] Yes it is,
and becoming more so
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perhaps because of COVID, but also because
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people are realising that it's
actually a fun game to play.
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And u3a members can learn
it from scratch quickly.
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- [Peter] Is it a very
difficult game to play?
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- [Valerie] Golf croquet
is not so difficult
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because each of you takes a turn.
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The way it's played, we
help one another along.
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Association is croquet
which is more like snooker,
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and is much more technical.
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Golf croquet is much more
sociable and easy to pick up,
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to play to a standard, to enjoy.
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- [Peter] Do you have to be
very, very fit to play croquet?
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- [Valerie] No, and I'm a
prime example of not being fit.
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(laughing)
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I have back problems
and a shoulder problem,
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but I can still play croquet.
Our oldest member is over 90.
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Our youngest is probably in their 50's.
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- [Peter] Suppose like
all games and sports,
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is the social aspect important as well?
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- [Valerie] I think it is, yes.
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And I think particularly during COVID,
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people found it really helpful because
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apart from the very early
lockdown, which was,
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should we say "extreme" when
everything was shut down,
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croquet, like golf, was
one of the first sports
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that you could play again,
because you are outside.
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It's not a contact sport and
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it can be played at a distance.
We could keep our distance
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on the court, and they found it useful
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to be able to get out and see people.
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- [Peter] So would you
recommend croquet as a
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pastime for people to take up?
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- [Valerie] Absolutely.
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(laughing) I don't need
more endorsement than that.
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- [Peter] Well, I'm
joined now by Roger Booth
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and we're actually out
on the croquet court.
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So Roger, roughly how
big is a croquet court?
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- [Roger] The court is
measured at 35 metres,
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35 yards long by 28 yards wide.
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You can fit two tennis
courts onto a croquet court.
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- [Peter] Okay. So it's about
the size of two tennis courts
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and you've got a hoop
in roughly each corner.
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- [Roger] There are six hoops in all,
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four in each corner and
then two down the centre.
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And then there's a peg, a coloured peg
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right in the centre of
the pit of the court.
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- [Peter] And the rough idea then is that
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you start and you hit the ball,
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and you gotta get the
ball through the hoop.
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- [Roger] Ideally, in
as few hits as possible.
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- [Peter] In as few hits as possible.
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- [Roger] That's it.
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- [Peter] Right. Okay. And
I guess the one who does it
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in the least number of hits is the winner?
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- [Roger] Well, yes. In a nutshell.
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- [Peter] In a nutshell, yeah.
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- [Roger] As soon as you put
one ball through the hoop,
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everyone does not have to
go through that same hoop,
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everyone then charges on to the next hoop.
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- [Peter] Well, that
looks, given that you can
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get the ball through the
hoop, pretty easy really.
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Is that all you do? You just
hit the ball through those?
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- [Roger] Straightforward,
as easy as that.
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- [Peter] And nothing else happens?
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- [Roger] It takes years of practise
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(laughing)
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and I'm still not getting it right.
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- [Peter] And there,
there must be some kind
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of strategy to the game.
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- [Roger] Today, we are
playing golf croquet
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in a foursome, two against two.
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And it is often described
as chess on a larger scale
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because you're thinking about not only the
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shot that you're about to play,
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you're thinking about the next shot,
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and you're thinking about
the second ahead shot
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of what you're about to play.
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- [Peter] Right.
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- [Roger] So you're
working out the strategy.
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Who's going to play what?
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How is your opponent going to play?
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Is he going to miss?
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What happens if he does miss?
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It's all about tactics and
sinking one, two strokes ahead.
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- [Peter] I've heard it can be a
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pretty savage game in a sense.
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- [Roger] Well,
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(laughing)
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Yes.
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(laughing)
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Yes. If you want to,
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it is not only about knocking
your ball through the hoop.
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It is also about taking
your opponent's ball out.
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If the opponent's ball
is about to run the hoop
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and it's your turn next,
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then you want to take
out the opponent's ball
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to make sure he doesn't run the hoop.
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And to do that,
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you can send them as
hard as you possibly can
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to the far end of the court.
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So he's really outta the game.
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- [Peter] Ah.
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- [Roger] That's the tactic there.
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- [Peter] Right.
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- [Roger] And it gives great satisfaction
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when you whack that ball,
and he goes further.
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On the other hand, if you miss,
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it's a bit embarrassing.
You end up off the court,
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leaving your opponent
right in front of the hoop.
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- [Peter] Well, we're here on
a very nice, warm, sunny day.
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So given the English weather,
I guess croquet is a game
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you can only play two or
three weeks of the year.
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Is that true?
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- [Roger] Hmm. We are a tough old breed,
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these croquet players.
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- [Peter] Ah.
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- [Roger] Now we play all
round. We have a winter court,
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the two summer courts. We rest up,
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and we play throughout the winter.
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This is not like cricket,
where rain stops plays.
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We play through the
rain when it's raining,
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and we even play when it's snowing.
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- [Peter] So you can
play croquet in the snow?
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- [Roger] You can.
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- [Peter] Okay.
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- [Roger] So you've gotta watch
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the colour of the ball, but yes.
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- [Peter] So an all
year round game, right?
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- [Roger] It is, yes.
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- [Peter] Right. Let's let's have a go at
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playing some croquet then. Alright.
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So all I have to do
then is to knock my ball
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and hit it through the hoop?
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Okay. So I'll have a go. Here we go.
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(ball being hit)
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Well, that's gone fairly
close to the hoop.
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So then it'd be your turn.
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- [Roger] Yeah.
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- [Peter] To hit the ball.
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- [Roger] And now he's
fairly close to the hoop.
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My opponent is fairly close to the hoop,
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so I will knock him clean
out of the way, hopefully.
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(ball being hit)
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- [Peter] And there, I have done that and
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there goes my ball right out
into the countryside, exactly.
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Well, thank you for that, Roger.
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- [Roger] Quite alright.
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(laughing)
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00:21:26,395 --> 00:21:27,510
- [Peter] As I go off into the
country to retrieve my ball,
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00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:30,900
I'll hand you back to the
studio and Nick Bailey.
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00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:33,300
- [Nick] And I thought
croquet was genteel.
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00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:35,940
So what about a nice game of cards?
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00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:37,380
During the first part of the lockdown,
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00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:40,044
Steve Carter from East Norfolk Bridge Club
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00:21:40,044 --> 00:21:44,310
started up an online forum
for u3a members nationally
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00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:46,950
to play bridge one evening a week.
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00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:49,320
The great response to this encouraged him
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00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,090
to set up a national bridge competition
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00:21:51,090 --> 00:21:55,230
in September to celebrate
the u3a's 40th anniversary.
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00:21:55,230 --> 00:21:58,500
Sarah Goodall asked him to explain more.
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00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:01,290
- [Steve] The idea is that we are offering
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00:22:01,290 --> 00:22:02,880
something for everybody,
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00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,410
in the bridge playing field that is.
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00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:08,550
And, so whether you are
playing online or whether
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00:22:08,550 --> 00:22:11,070
you're playing once a week in your garden
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00:22:11,070 --> 00:22:14,610
with a few friends over a
glass of wine or a cup of tea
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00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:16,800
or whatever, there'll be
something for everybody.
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00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,410
What we're doing over the whole five days,
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00:22:19,410 --> 00:22:22,260
as you obviously know,
the anniversary week is
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00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:23,550
from the Sunday to the Saturday,
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00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:26,464
our actual anniversary
is on the 21st, yeah,
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00:22:26,464 --> 00:22:30,060
but we are actually running a daily
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00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:31,080
bridge competition on the
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Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday, and Friday.
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00:22:33,732 --> 00:22:36,988
And we'll be playing the same hands, yeah,
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00:22:36,988 --> 00:22:39,390
all over the country.
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00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:41,070
So no matter where you are, yeah,
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00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:42,630
you'll get the same hands
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00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:45,510
and you'll be competing
against somebody in Cornwall,
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00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:47,580
or somebody up in the Shetland Isles,
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00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:50,610
or in London, yeah, the exact same hands.
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00:22:50,610 --> 00:22:54,180
The advantage that is that
you can then see at the end of
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the day, yeah, how well you did
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00:22:56,190 --> 00:22:58,773
against all your fellow bridge players.
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00:22:58,773 --> 00:23:03,420
We're also having some
experts who will actually be
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00:23:03,420 --> 00:23:07,410
analysing those hands and
will then be sending out a
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00:23:07,410 --> 00:23:10,710
commentary on the
following day, obviously.
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00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:13,050
And that says, "This is how
the expert would've played
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00:23:13,050 --> 00:23:15,520
the hand, and this is the
score you should have got,
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00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,908
and this is the bidding
you should have made."
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00:23:16,908 --> 00:23:19,920
Okay. So it's all good, exciting stuff.
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00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,121
If you're a bridge player,
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00:23:21,121 --> 00:23:21,954
(laughing)
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00:23:21,954 --> 00:23:24,570
that's the interesting thing, yes okay.
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00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:25,920
- [Sarah] I am not a bridge player.
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00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,680
So what I'm wondering is, if
I get to the end of Monday,
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and I've done badly,
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00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,190
does that mean I don't
get to play on Tuesday?
533
00:23:32,190 --> 00:23:35,070
- [Steve] Yeah. You can
play five times, yeah,
534
00:23:35,070 --> 00:23:36,360
during that week, yeah.
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00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:37,320
What you can't do, of course,
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00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,631
you can't play the same
hands again on the same day.
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00:23:39,631 --> 00:23:43,182
That would be cheating,
and we don't endorse that.
538
00:23:43,182 --> 00:23:44,460
- [Sarah] And most
people will know how to?
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00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:46,740
- [Steve] Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
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00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:49,320
- [Sarah] How many groups have signed up?
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00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,983
- [Steve] So far, we've had a sort of
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00:23:51,983 --> 00:23:55,560
semi-commitment from 880 people.
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00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,393
- [Sarah] Wow.
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00:23:56,393 --> 00:23:59,370
- [Steve] So, so over
the, now knowing our luck
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00:23:59,370 --> 00:24:01,080
of course, they'll all
want to play on the Monday,
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00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,250
and nobody want to play on the
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00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:03,600
Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday.
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00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,370
- [Sarah] It's quite a
useful exercise anyway,
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00:24:05,370 --> 00:24:07,470
trying to locate all these groups because
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00:24:07,470 --> 00:24:09,300
obviously, even though
I don't play bridge,
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00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,370
I know it's one of the
most popular things in
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00:24:11,370 --> 00:24:14,070
u3a memberships around the country.
553
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:16,470
So at least you'll have
some data after this,
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00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:17,610
won't you, by the sound of it?
555
00:24:17,610 --> 00:24:19,740
- [Steve] Well, I hope
so. I really hope so.
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00:24:19,740 --> 00:24:21,090
And I'm hoping that it's going to be the
557
00:24:21,090 --> 00:24:23,310
forerunner of something else.
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00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:26,190
It would be nice to be able
to run the same thing on
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00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:28,584
u3a day every year, or u3a week.
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00:24:28,584 --> 00:24:30,840
So again, it depends.
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00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,873
This is the first time it's
been done, to my knowledge.
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00:24:32,873 --> 00:24:34,620
So it'd be really good to find out
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00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:38,458
how successful it is, and
how interested people are,
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00:24:38,458 --> 00:24:40,980
and continue playing bridge.
565
00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:42,120
- [Sarah] Oh, that sounds fantastic.
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00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,976
Don't forget to let us know
how it goes afterwards, Steve.
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00:24:44,976 --> 00:24:45,969
- [Steve] Absolutely.
568
00:24:45,969 --> 00:24:48,150
- [Sarah] And how are people
listening to this podcast,
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00:24:48,150 --> 00:24:50,790
is it still possible to
sign up even in August?
570
00:24:50,790 --> 00:24:51,840
- [Steve] Absolutely. Yes.
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00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,370
- [Sarah] How would they do that?
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00:24:53,370 --> 00:24:54,570
- [Steve] Get in touch with me.
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00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:57,540
u3abridgegroup@hotmail.com
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00:24:57,540 --> 00:24:59,940
What I hadn't told you earlier, Sarah,
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00:24:59,940 --> 00:25:02,760
is we've had some really good responses
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00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,940
from some of the bridge playing community.
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00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:10,803
And one of the bridge
online playing platforms,
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00:25:10,803 --> 00:25:13,560
called Bridge Club Live, have offered
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00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,937
a 40 day free trial to all u3a members.
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00:25:16,937 --> 00:25:17,813
- [Sarah] What is that?
581
00:25:17,813 --> 00:25:19,050
- [Steve] So what they're saying is
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00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:22,440
normally they they'd
charge for that session.
583
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,273
And they're saying, you know,
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00:25:23,273 --> 00:25:26,040
we thoroughly endorse what u3a is doing
585
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,770
and we'll support them
with a 40 day free trial.
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00:25:28,770 --> 00:25:31,502
- [Sarah] So even more
incentive to take part.
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00:25:31,502 --> 00:25:35,232
Well, I'm sure it'll be
a, not just a success
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00:25:35,232 --> 00:25:37,170
and worth all your time and effort,
589
00:25:37,170 --> 00:25:40,046
but I'm sure it sounds
like it's going to be
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00:25:40,046 --> 00:25:43,050
in the calendar, in the u3a calendar.
591
00:25:43,050 --> 00:25:44,370
I'm sure when people have got the
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00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:45,766
bit between their teeth,
they'll want to do it again.
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00:25:45,766 --> 00:25:46,599
So well done.
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00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:47,432
- [Steve] I sincerely hope so.
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00:25:47,432 --> 00:25:48,265
- [Sarah] Well done Sir.
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00:25:48,265 --> 00:25:49,098
(laughing)
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00:25:49,098 --> 00:25:50,301
I sincerely hope so.
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00:25:50,301 --> 00:25:53,280
- [Sarah] For creating a new u3a custom,
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00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,690
thank you very much, Steve,
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00:25:54,690 --> 00:25:56,370
and good luck with the enterprise.
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00:25:56,370 --> 00:25:58,020
- [Steve] And thank you for supporting it
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00:25:58,020 --> 00:25:59,460
and advertising it.
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00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:03,840
- [Nick] Steve Carter, the
subject advisor for u3a Bridge,
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00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,030
and that email address again,
if you want to take part,
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00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:09,933
is u3abridgegroup@hotmail.com
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00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,630
And that's it for this edition.
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00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:15,510
My thanks for the interviews
to Ela Watts, Joanne Watson,
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00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:18,210
Sarah Goodall, and poor old Peter Clift
609
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:20,010
who's still looking for his ball!
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00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:22,890
And of course, Ela who
produces the podcast.
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00:26:22,890 --> 00:26:24,660
Don't forget. We're always
looking for stories,
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00:26:24,660 --> 00:26:27,930
whether it involves you or
someone else in your u3a.
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00:26:27,930 --> 00:26:30,480
So we'd love to hear from
you. Get in touch through
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00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,010
communications@u3a.org.uk
615
00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:39,197
Until next time, this is
Nick Bailey saying goodbye.
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00:26:39,197 --> 00:26:41,780
(upbeat music)
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00:26:45,929 --> 00:26:48,429
(music fades)